Prompted by the recent article on goodreturns I've been challenged to state my view on the value that dealer groups add for the override they are paid. It has been 20 years since I was employed by an insurance company, although in my current business I deal with many. But back when I left Sovereign's employment to launch Quicken.co.nz I had the view shared by many 'inside' insurers that dealer groups offered little value. Over the ensuring ten years my view was changed. Today I have the economist's viewpoint: as most insurance advisers know that the group is paid an override, and many could obtain that themselves (through one of several strategies) they must see value in the groups, otherwise they wouldn't be members. Then, to explore what that is, I just asked a few. Since then - for about the last ten years - I have seen that value demonstrated. The sources vary. From networking and collegiate exchange, adding more training services recently, through to a broad suite of technology services, most of the groups have been adding value in a battery of ways. Whether that can continue to allow that to be funded in the traditional manner will be up to MBIE as they draft the new Conduct of Financial Institutions law.